Evolution IS a Blind Watchmaker
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In this video I deconstruct the broken watch straw man argument used by creationist / ID supporters to attack evolution. I had to pack a ton of information into this video so you WILL need to pause it periodically.
The basic premise of the argument is that a bunch of parts will never randomly assemble into the correct arrangement to form a properly functioning complex. Once again, creationists / ID supporters miss the basic concept of evolution entirely. No biologists believes, nor is there any evidence that complex systems form spontaneously in one fell swoop. That would be creation. Systems evolve through many intermediates, one step at a time, slowly building up the complexity.
Here I deconstruct their straw man argument. Basically, I simulate clocks as living organisms. Selective pressure is focused on their ability to accurately tell time. NO goal is imposed on the design (you can tell this because every simulation ends with a differently constructed clock). And it works. Clocks evolve through a series of transitional forms: Pendulum, Proto-clock, 1-handed Clock, 2-handed Clock, 3-handed Clock, and 4-handed Clock. Gradually the complexity is built up.
These labels I have assigned to the transitional forms have nothing to do with the simulation itself. They are names I assigned so that we could analyze what the population was doing. The clocks are just clocks, living in their world, trying to tell time as accurately as possible.
One thing I wanted to address but didn't have time in the video is how rapid the transitional period can be. In some simulations the population goes from pendulums to 3-handed Clocks in a hundred or so generations. And the transitions between the transitional forms are even more rapid, happening in about ten generations. Chances are none or a very limited representation of that transition will be preserved in the fossil record.
One thing I should add. The program does not draw the clocks. It maintains, mates, and simulates them, but the drawing must be done manually from the genome matrix.
The program is written in MatLab.
The hand rotations that begin with 86 are 86,000 not 86.000. When YouTube compressed the video it becam hard to tell a comma from a period.
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Channel: Howto & Style
Uploaded: June 5, 2007 at 10:25 am
Author: cdk007
Length: 00:09:48
Rating: 4.66
Views: 192004
Tags: Intelligent Design ID Creationism Wrong Mutation Natural Selection Irreducible Complexity Experiment Education Straw Man
Video Comments:
cdk007 (December 4, 2008 at 12:25 pm)
Because when we bring up the following facts:
near universal genetic code
common use of DNA as genetic material
shared ERVs
common nucleotides in wobble position
shared pseudogenes
shared transposons
synteny
...
We are told, common design means common designer. Now you are arguing there is a wide variety of organisms out there, so the designer has a huge imagination. Great. So how then do you explain the above.
You can't have it both ways.
near universal genetic code
common use of DNA as genetic material
shared ERVs
common nucleotides in wobble position
shared pseudogenes
shared transposons
synteny
...
We are told, common design means common designer. Now you are arguing there is a wide variety of organisms out there, so the designer has a huge imagination. Great. So how then do you explain the above.
You can't have it both ways.
Kirkwhisper (December 4, 2008 at 12:18 pm)
"I know you like 'God did it' because it's short, but if you want REAL answers you have to READ."
The real answer is that God Almighty created the heavens and the earth with His omniscience and there isn't anything that you or any other skeptic can do to change that fact. You are insane for believing that life could generate of its own accord WITHOUT EVEN ONE EXAMPLE that it ever did so. Fool.
The real answer is that God Almighty created the heavens and the earth with His omniscience and there isn't anything that you or any other skeptic can do to change that fact. You are insane for believing that life could generate of its own accord WITHOUT EVEN ONE EXAMPLE that it ever did so. Fool.
Kirkwhisper (December 4, 2008 at 12:15 pm)
cdk007: You cannot prove something as 'false' which is the truth.
"If a mere human,(sic) with such finite limited imagination can produce different designs, why can't an all powerful all knowing god."
The very fact that you made such a statement makes me sit in wonder how you ever became a professor of science. The vast array marine life in our oceans alone boggles the imagination and you have the audacity to say that? Who in their right mind would listen to someone like you?
"If a mere human,(sic) with such finite limited imagination can produce different designs, why can't an all powerful all knowing god."
The very fact that you made such a statement makes me sit in wonder how you ever became a professor of science. The vast array marine life in our oceans alone boggles the imagination and you have the audacity to say that? Who in their right mind would listen to someone like you?
ozpowermo (December 4, 2008 at 11:17 am)
JMcH@
"'Google it!' I see that so many times from your side"
Seriously, what else can I tell you? When you come up here and ask "how organisms became capable of things like sexual reproduction", it tells me that you didn't even bother to Google.
It's equivalent to asking: "how are pathogens capable of resisting antibiotics"... all it takes is a simple Google search, it's not a MYSTERY!
I know you like "God did it" because it's short, but if you want REAL answers you have to READ!
"'Google it!' I see that so many times from your side"
Seriously, what else can I tell you? When you come up here and ask "how organisms became capable of things like sexual reproduction", it tells me that you didn't even bother to Google.
It's equivalent to asking: "how are pathogens capable of resisting antibiotics"... all it takes is a simple Google search, it's not a MYSTERY!
I know you like "God did it" because it's short, but if you want REAL answers you have to READ!
cdk007 (December 4, 2008 at 10:40 am)
The common design common designer argument is proven false by mere humans. How many architects, engineers, and artists have produced vastly different works throughout their careers. If a mere human, with such finite limited imagination can produce different designs, why can't an all powerful all knowing god. You presume to know the inner thoughts of god when it suits you, yet fain ignorance when it doesn't. Your logic is like swiss cheese, your demeanor that of a frightened child.
cdk007 (December 4, 2008 at 10:36 am)
"Evolution theory has been proven false, it is over.... "
Unfortunately you are the one who believes you will burn in hell for all of eternity for making such statements you know to be false.
After spending the greater part of my life educating myself in regards to science, all I can do is feel sorry for how absolutely pathetic you truly are.
Grow up.
Unfortunately you are the one who believes you will burn in hell for all of eternity for making such statements you know to be false.
After spending the greater part of my life educating myself in regards to science, all I can do is feel sorry for how absolutely pathetic you truly are.
Grow up.
JMcH (December 4, 2008 at 10:04 am)
lol! "Google it!" I see that so many times from your side that I expect to see that argument made during the next debate between an evolutionist and a Christian.
ozpowermo (December 4, 2008 at 9:12 am)
cuff1944@
"We aren't interested in your propaganda, deceptions, lies, delusions..."
Yet you keep coming back and you keep commenting on this video?!?
"So don't waste your time because we aren't interested in your deluded thinking okay..."
Again... NOBODY is making you come back here, watch these videos and read the comments... so don't blame us for wasting your time!
If you don't want your time wasted then don't come back :).
"We aren't interested in your propaganda, deceptions, lies, delusions..."
Yet you keep coming back and you keep commenting on this video?!?
"So don't waste your time because we aren't interested in your deluded thinking okay..."
Again... NOBODY is making you come back here, watch these videos and read the comments... so don't blame us for wasting your time!
If you don't want your time wasted then don't come back :).
cuff1944 (December 4, 2008 at 6:28 am)
Yawn...
More darwin/dawkins lover propaganda....
Look it isn't going to change our mind sorry, you believe what you want to and we will believe what we want to....
We aren't interested in your propaganda, deceptions, lies, delusions....
It is getting rather boring now okay....
So don't waste your time because we aren't interested in your deluded thinking okay...
Evolution theory has been proven false, it is over....
More darwin/dawkins lover propaganda....
Look it isn't going to change our mind sorry, you believe what you want to and we will believe what we want to....
We aren't interested in your propaganda, deceptions, lies, delusions....
It is getting rather boring now okay....
So don't waste your time because we aren't interested in your deluded thinking okay...
Evolution theory has been proven false, it is over....
How do we know god is real, because god says so in god's book the bible.
How do we know the bible is god's book, because god told us it is, in the bible.
Repeat ad infinitum.